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August 19, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Not only in Enid Blyton's book but in many books of long ago, " Sea Air' was considered very good to regain health after a long illness. I have read in East Lynne by Mrs. Heery Wood too where Lady Isabel Carlyle was sent to a sea side place to recuperate from her weakened state by her husband and she was indeed vitalized by the sea air and improved a lot. The colour came back in her cheeks and she walked briskly and in short returned to life full of vim and vigour. As children we were encouraged to go for walks along the sea shore where there is more 'ozone' or go to the hill stations where the fresh mountain air could make all your ills go away. What a lovely way to get well soon! —Avan N. Cooverji
Daisy says... Daisy says: That's right, and in Enid's book - Five Get into a Fix, the Five went to the mountains in Wales to recover.
August 18, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Daisy is quite right. Back in the 50s (and before) clean sea air - and good wholesome country air - complete with farm smells! - were thought to cure all manner of illnesses that us city fair contracted. Of course, wherever you are, air is mainly 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% carbon dioxide. —Nigel
August 18, 2017: Naughtiest Girl - The train to Whyteleaf
In my book which was probably published in the early 1970's it says "the train that would take her and the other girls to the school". Maybe they updated subsequent print editions with the "boys" part. —Victoria
Daisy says... Daisy says: Apparently in answer to this question, reading my book of 1958, it says that the 'girls' had three carriages reserved for them and the boys two carriages, so they must have been apart on the journey to the school.
August 17, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
The BBC site on Enid mentioned that illnesses in her stories are invariably solved with a seaside holiday. Is this true or is it another myth? —Paul
Daisy says... Daisy says: In some of Enid's books a seaside holiday is recommended after an illness. In Enid's time the good sea air was thought to help any illness.
August 15, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Television and Film Adaptations
I've seen a cartoon version of St.Clare,s and although quite a few scenes from the book are missing in the cartoon version, it hasn't got a random story line and each episode relates to certain events in the books. —KawaiiArtist
August 15, 2017: Unlisted Series (Miscellaneous) - The Family at Red-Roofs
What do you mean by that Paul? —KawaiiArtist
Fatty says... Fatty says: Paul is referring to a book full of speculation (often fantastic) about Enid's writing, The Famous Five: A Personal Anecdotage, by Stephen Isabirye.
August 13, 2017: Mystery (Five Find-Outer) Series - Continuation books
Do not think "continuation stories ' a very good. Idea. It seems to take away something from the originals rather than add to them. Somehow does not sound genuine. Feel it best to let be as they are and as all good things come to an end, so be it with this also. —Avan N. Cooverji
August 13, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Enid's Desciption of Foreigners
On thinking about the above mentioned topic of Enid Blyton being racist or not, I feel that if she had visited some countries like India and Africa, (which from her writings I do not think she has) and if only she could have seen the beauty of these lands and the humility and kindness of its people, her perception would have changed and she would have written in a vein that would have been far more sympathetic to ' foreigners'. Nothing widens your horizons as travelling and it seems to me that her limited travelling has led to her narrow views, so in a way we can put it down to ignorance and scanty knowledge of foreign cultures on her part and forming opinion whilst having little knowledge is a dangerous thing. —Avan N. Cooverji
Daisy says... Daisy says: Enid certainly wasn't racist and may have had little knowledge of travelling, (she did go over to New York with her second husband), but one must remember that in the height of her career, the world was different than it is today.
August 10, 2017: Famous Five - Ginger Beer and Lemonade
You don't see hegemonic drinks like cola in Enid's True British Tales! It's odd that she doesn't warn her young readers that drinking from a stream in real life could be dangerous as they could be contaminated? —Paul
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Target Age
I too like to read any book whose title or stories interest me and they need not be adult literature. I enjoy reading childrens books and fairy tales though I am old at seventy four years of age. —Avan N. Cooverji
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - George's lessons - Book 2
She took lessons just because she had to. (Her father told her to do so). —MikeConley
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Dick means Richard
I think in the Book 'Five Get Into Trouble', the ruffians just made up some excuse to kidnap Dick(Whom they thought was Richard, though they didn't know how he looked) so that they can show him to Rookie. Therefore,they didn't believe Dick when he said that he was Dick and not Richard. No complication required. And BTW,Dick isn't short for Richard(Point to be noted). —MikeConley
Daisy says... Daisy says: I beg to differ, the villains kidnapped Dick thinking he was Richard. And Dick is a shortened version of Richard!
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Why do the Five change their name to Barnard from Kirrin?
In which book is it stated that Julian's father's surname is Kirrin? Fanny is the one who is Kirrin,not Quentin and 'Daddy' of Julian,Dick and Anne. I guess Quentin is Quentin Barnard,Daddy is (xyz) Barnard,his wife is Mrs Barnard and Quentin's wife is Fanny Kirrin or something. Blyton is right,I guess. If I am wrong anywhere,please do correct me. :). —Mike Conley
Fatty says... Fatty says: Without researching, I would imagine the surname was first mentioned in Five on a Treasure Island. Barnard was an error, Mike, and only mentioned in one book, Five Get Into a Fix.
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Ginger Beer and Lemonade
Hey Evie M, I accept your statement. Ginger beer and Lemonade are just like the Cold Drinks/Fruit Juices. —MikeConley
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Target Age
I don't think books require age limits. A book can be enjoyed at any age and by anybody. —MikeConley
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - What happened to Edgar Stick?
I guess he must have joined a circus or local folks or may have stayed withn his parents after all. I hate him as much as I hate the Sticks. I hate the 'Georgie Porgie Pudding and Pie' poem. I hope he would lead a meaningless and a traitor's life.(Exactly like his parents'). —MikeConley
August 9, 2017: Famous Five - Favourite Supporting Character
My favourite would be Tinker himself. A funny character. Fancy himself being a car! —MikeConley
August 6, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - The Three Golliwogs
Golliwogs! This term was used in the times when the world was a different place, do not think it was meant to be intentionally rude or looking down on black people or other non- white races, though it does show traces of haughtiness and pride about its users, but in todays times it is definately not proper to have this term as it does seem to connote something inferior to the 'Whites' or the so called superior people. But those who think that it is aimed at them and feel offended should retort by saying that " A ROSE BY ANY NAME SMELLS JUST AS SWEET! ". —Avan N. Cooverji
August 4, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Portry
Father Time: ----- Old Father Time is a wicked old man, He says catch me if you can, Knowing very well that he's always ahead , And can catch him only when we're dead. He loves to play and he loves to tease, He will pant and he will wheeze, But he'll never give up and he'll never let go, We're all in his power just so. See what he did to the beautous Queen, However could he be so mean? She who was once so pretty and slim , He turned her into a Lady Grim. Now she goes with her legs bowed and bent, Still he will never relent, Her hairs turned white and her so has her gents, Old age to him and her he has quickly sent. He goes after all, no one he respects, He attacks them in all their aspects, He goes after skin, he goes after teeth, To him we're all dead meat. The bones he turns weak and the skin makes loose, So that we end up looking like a moose, The face he contorts , the figure he shrinks, And us to the edge of despair he brings. Father Time why are you so cruel, Why don't you just let us be? Why do you taunt and torture us so, Why do you not your own way go? You went after the Famous Five , As if you wanted to eat them alive, You did not spare the FindOuters and Dog, You make all loose their way as if in a fog. Father Time is a wily old man , Can we catch him? Yes we can, We'll ourselves grow old, and then we can be, Out of his clutches, you just wait and see. Once we are infirm and very old , He'll have nothing left to do, Thats when he'll know that we too are bold, And it is he who is left out in the cold. —Avan N. Cooverji
August 3, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Why do people call Blyton 'racist'?
Enid Blytons books are a peek into history and into the values and social constructs of the era. To read Enid Blyton for me is to go back in time and see the world through the eyes of an English women of the 1940's. To edit her books is to erase history, I won't ever read an edited book of hers! They are time capsules and shouldn't be messed with. Kids these days should be allowed to experience a different historical perspective of life and not kept so encapsulated in their own time. Expand their minds, stop bubble wrappping and air brushing everything! —Heidi
Daisy says... Daisy says: Couldn't agree more, Heidi.
August 3, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Fathers in Enid's books...
I have come across only some Fathers in Enid Blyton, ( as I read only limited series of Enid Bltyon) but amongst them, the best father to me seems Mr. Algernon Trotteville, Fatty's father. He is not controlling, gives Fatty his independence and own space and yet is there for him should he be needed as an adult presence for his young son. Coming to Mr. Hilton, I would not like to have him as a father as he is too formal and seems to lack even a bit of humour. Mr. Quentin is of course in a world of his own, and does not seem to even know that he has a child, which seems to suit George well. Mr. Daykins , Larry and Daisy's father is hardly mentioned but he seems to be somewhere mid -between Mr. Trotteville and Mr. Hilton. Another sensible father is Daryll's, Mr. Rivers, ( as surgeons are addressed as'Misters' and not ' Doctors' in England I think). Nothing remarkable about any of them but having said that, they are all good and caring about their children and as the children seem to think the world of them , they surely must be good at parenting. —Avan N. Cooverji
August 1, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - The Three Golliwogs
"Nigger" meant more of a colour than a racist term. Paint manufacturers called a dark brown colour, Nigger Brown. I have know pet dogs called Nigger and there was no intention to compare them with black African Americans in a derogatory term. Rhymes, such as "Catch a nigger by his toes" and Agatha Christie's Ten Little Niggers - the latter was also a rhyme - gave no offence back in the 40s. I get tired and irritated by these posts saying Enid was racist. She wasn't, indeed the word racist wasn't known back then. Of course it isn't acceptable in 2017 to use these words, but it was in 1940. —George
August 1, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - The Three Golliwogs
I read these comments in shock especially those saying the people who got the. I'll manner must be racist. Followings and the use of the N word are just not acceptable. IN ANY WAY. And just because black people have claimed that word back does not mean it can be used to perpetuate racist stereotypes. I love Enid B too but you are kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that use of language is racist. —Natasha Bowen
Fatty says... Fatty says: I have left your first two sentences in, but they don't make any sense to me. Maybe others will know what you were trying to say. It is important to read and check posts before submitting.
July 29, 2017: Mystery (Five Find-Outer) Series - Correcting Errors
Never realised that the FindOuters series were written over eighteen years as Nigel has explained! To write each book of the series at an average gap of one year and a few months running throughout eighteen long years and yet to make it feel that it is written in quick succession, one after another, as the children's school holidays must be occuring every six months, for them to solve a mystery during every Summer and Xmass time, is remarkable, for she kept the tempo up without missing a step. She had the ability to make the reader feel that all this took place from the time the boys and Daisy were between the ages of 12 and 15 and Bets was between the age of 8 to 12, meaning this to be a period of four to five years. Some lapses / errors are bound to occur when writing so many books and all credit to her varied talents for keeping the interest of the readers during the long span of eighteen years and yet making them believe the mysteries took place during each holiday time. —Avan N. Cooverji
Fatty says... Fatty says: As with many long-running series, it is best to forget about a timeline! Avan, check out the Enid Blyton Society website for more on the Find-Outers. We also have a ling near the top of our own home page.
July 29, 2017: Mystery (Five Find-Outer) Series - Correcting Errors
Avan, the Find-Outers' series was written over a period of eighteen years, not "five to seven years at the most". I tend to agree with Daisy on this. It must be remembered that Enid wrote so many books in this period, that she sometimes forgot certain details. The Barnard/Kirrin surname mistake was another. I must say, I never noticed any of these slip-ups when reading the books as a child. —Nigel