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October 21, 2017: Famous Five - Bloopers?
Hey guys Famous Five 21 (Five are together again), it's mentioned that George always waits for term end as Timmy stays at home but in all the earlier novels, he went to school with George and in the second book Gerige herself said that she wouldn't go to school of Timmy wasn't allowed. They haven't mentioned the school rules being changed and George wouldn't just accept it. I would be glad of any clarity provided. —Nandita
Fatty says... Fatty says: Yes, most odd. It was written when Enid had become ill, so maybe she just forgot.
October 11, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Ghost writers
I am surprised, since I have never heard of such a thing that a book may be published under the name of another author, having the same book cover design and even her name written the same way on the cover as on other 'original' books and that at the same time it may have another author. I cannot believe it that copywright laws allow someone, even a company to publish something under the name of someone who cannot give permission to this anymore. Not that I have investigated it though. But obviously, I feel misled anyway. —Melinda TURI
Fatty says... Fatty says: It is quite common. There is a series of adult books based on the Famous Five, called Enid Blyton for Grown Ups. Click on the link to see one of them. Many Blyton fans strongly disagree with this, but Hodder have obviously given their approval.
October 10, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Ghost writers
My daugther started reading her books. The first one was The secret island. She loved it and we could hardly get enough books for her in English. So I was happy to find lots of her books in second hand book shops as we arrived to Germany. We reread The Secret Island in German which not only has a different title,but the translators stupefied the story,making lots of changes in it. However, my shock came today,when my daughter came home from the library with 6 Enid Blyton books from the series of 'Fünf Freunde'(five friends) and inside the cover it says with tiny letters that they have been authored by Sarah Bosse! How can that happen? —Melinda TURI
Daisy says... Daisy says: I'm baffled, Melinda. Unless someone has done continuation stories of Enid's books? Maybe someone reading this posting can shed light on this.

Fatty says: I don't think there's any mystery here to solve, Melinda. Sarah Bosse has written 30 Famous Five (Fünf Freunde) follow-on books for the German market. Your daughter has simply borrowed six of those.
October 9, 2017: Naughtiest Girl - Naughtiest Girl Comic adaptation in Pixie Comic 1972 - illustrator?
Hello, I'm wondering whether anyone remembers or has any information concerning the illustrator of the fantastic Enid Blyton adaptation, 'The Story of The Naughtiest Girl in The School', which appeared in Pixie comic in 1972? The strip first appeared in the very first issue of Pixie, June 24th 1972. It truly is a fabulous strip and the artwork really captures the spirit of the story, but I can't find the illustrator's name anywhere and it's really bugging me! This artist deserves recognition for his/her amazing work! Can anyone help? —Dylan
Fatty says... Fatty says: I believe Eric Parker might have illustrated some of these, Dylan. However, the Enid Blyton Society states that the illustrator is uncredited.
October 4, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - What EB book would make the perfect movie?
I wish someone would make proper "just like the books" films or TV series of all the Famous Fives. The two series they made were ok, but I would like visuals that looked like Eileen Soper had been on set, locations that looked like the descriptions in the books, and as few plot deviations as possible. There's obviously the danger that things might get a bit repetitive as the stories progress, but I think it could be done. —Paul Austin
Fatty says... Fatty says: Like this, Paul? :-)
October 3, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Why update books?
Love rereading Enid Blyton. Was brought up in India in the 70s and Enid Blyton was our window into another totally different, yet delightful world. Firmly against any editing at all. Affects the way we remember the book. What right does anyone gave to change another person's work without their permission? —Lalitha Manjunath
September 20, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Thoughts, Ramblings and Essays
I think it is very interesting how certain ideas about some groups were accepted as THE TRUTH at that time and how that is reflected even in childrens fiction. It just goes to show truth is more changeable, less universal than we might think and maybe even illusory in some respects. The whole idea of there being such a thing as THE TRUTH begins to be called into question and I think the Famous Five would have found that very difficult. —Sarah Strong
Fatty says... Fatty says: Hmm. That takes some thinking about. Not sure what you mean by "some groups". What do you mean by "THE TRUTH"?
September 15, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays in Blyton Locations
Quite a lot of Enid Blytons books were written during the second world war or during the prolonged period of rationing that followed. How tantalising the feasts in her books would have been to children who had to endure a very restricted diet, with limited protein and few sweet treats! —Sarah Strong
September 15, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Enid's Desciption of Foreigners
Sorry to add a slight complication but whether you regard Enid Blyton as racist or not may depend somewhat on which edition of her books you have read. Over the years many of her books have had the attentions of editors who have altered the text to make it less harsh towards certain groups. One example of this is the references to the Oriental foreigners that capture the children in The Mountain of Adventure. Some of the original text seemed painfully prejudiced to me. However, and much as I love the books, it isn't just different races that are affected. Women and girls dont exactly come in for fair and equal treatment. Georg(e)(ina) in the Famous Five, despite being intelligent, courageous, athletic and consistantly honest,( even when it will get her into trouble), only counts as being " nearly as good as a boy, " and the way that Julian leaps in and takes control during a crisis, despite a female adult being present and the way he speaks to and about her and talks to others, such as the police, (and I am thinking particularly but not exclusively of Aunt Fanny,) in her presence, gives the impression that adult females are a load of witless idiots too unintelligent or incapable with nervous complaints to determine a sensible course of action. If you want to consider whether Enid Blyton was prejudiced, the clearest view will be found by studying the earlier texts, as the later ones have been edited. —Sarah Strong
Fatty says... Fatty says: Blyton wrote in an era where girls were treated differently to boys. They were seen as the weaker sense. By updating these stories the historical aspect of the books are lost. They should be read as the classics that they are. You'd hardly expect to read of Jane Eyre wearing jeans or Tom Brown not getting the cane at school, would you?
September 14, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Spin offs you would like to see?
How about June Johns running a detective agency? —Paul Austin
September 13, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Sadly, Daisy, it's un PC to call a female home help a "maid" now. We're told to use "housekeeper" as the home help can be male these days. —Paul Austin
Daisy says... Daisy says: I was using the word "maid" as in Blyton times, not these times, Paul!
September 9, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Daisy, the holidays I wrote about were during very different times, then things were very affordable , we were simple middle class families, and there was nothing exotic about these breaks. And family in those times meant not only a single unit of mother , father and their children but also extended families like aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Even very close friends were considered family as were very close neighbours. And all went together on holidays and when the cost was shared, it worked out very economically. So in case I have given an idea of something expensive and grand and exclusive, nothing could be further from that. Also a cook was essential to help with such a large group and the ladies all worked in tandem with the cook. Everyone pitched in to do everything together. But why are you surprised on the mention of a cook being present? In Enid Blyton's Five FindOuters series , Pip and Bets have a cook , Fatty has a cook and they have maids as well, that too live- in maids , besides they have garderners and all sort of help and that too on a regular basis. So it is a bit difficult for me to understand why you find it out of the ordianry to find people take a cook along with them and that too for the short duration of a holiday period. —Avan N. Cooverji
Daisy says... Daisy says: Your holidays with family and friends, sound wonderful, Avan. Sadly I wasn't in the same era and things like a maid and a cook just wasn't affordable. One of the reasons why I personally love to read about - cooks and a maid - in the Blyton books.
September 9, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Holidays! I remember how exciting it was as a child to hear the family make holiday plans. There would be first the decision to be made on where to go for a holiday, then the planning of an itenary, then the booking of train tickets, finally the packing and on the long awaited day, off we went. These were the days when it would never be a break of 3 nights-4 days but a proper holiday of at least a month. But those were affordable times, sometimes we would book a bungalow on rent for a full month, the family would also take along a cook hired for the duration of that month, and the amount of bags and baggages we would have with us! And it was always with reluctance that we returned back to the city and already we would be planning for our next holiday. —Avan N. Cooverji
Daisy says... Daisy says: Gosh that was a long holiday, Avan. We were lucky as kids if we got a week. And we never had the money to take along a cook!
September 3, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
If I won the lottery, I'd invest in research to cure cancer, diabetes etc. —Paul
August 27, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
If I were to win an exceptional lottery and there is no limitation to money to be spent on a holiday, I would book my husband and myself for a World Cruise on a luxury Ocean Liner. It would be first class all the way with the best accomodation available , the best gourmet food, all luxury suites and cars for sightseeing at ports of call. I would take full advantage of the beauty salons and massage parlours and other facilities available on board. I would call for room service for every little thing were I to feel too lazy to step outside my stateroom. I would also take along a maid for me , a valet for my husband and a secretary for both of us who would handle all the nitty gritty and make all travel and other arrangements for us. In short, I would not exert myself to do a thing but would be the Queen and make my husband the King of all we survey! —Avan N. Cooverji
Fatty says... Fatty says: As you posted in the Holidays in Blyton Locations thread, I have moved this to the generel Holidays thread, Avan.
August 26, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Ofcourse, Fatty says only as a joke that Welsh people should come to Peterswood for change of air, but truly Peterswood is such a nice peaceful and lovely village that anyone who has any health issues or even other problems would soon forget their ills and become happy and stong again. I for one woud love to have lived there, can anyone tell me where Peterswood is in England today? —Anonymous
Fatty says... Fatty says: It is thought to be based on Bourne End, in Buckinghamshire - especially around Coldmoorholme Lane, where Enid used to live.
August 26, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays in Blyton Locations
The Famous Five also spent one holiday on a farm. I would love to do that also, especially having meals that the farmer's wife provides so generously--- Newly laid eggs, clotted cream , buttered toasts, scrumptious buns, roast chicken, fresh fruit juice, hot chocolate, warm milk--- the list goes on and on. Add to that hearing the cows moo, the pigs in their pens, ducks waddling about, the dogs herding the sheep , a horse or two and the wonderful clean country air. Heaven! —Avan N. Cooverji
Fatty says... Fatty says: There are plenty of farms offering B&B and holiday lets, so this would be quite possible for you, Avan.
August 26, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Yes Fatty, since I do like creature comforts, a holiday cottage or chalet would be more comfortable for me but the reason I want a modern caravan is that then you do not get stuck at one site but can move about from place to place and do not have to pack and unpack either, as it is more or less like a home on wheels. —Avan N. Cooverji
August 26, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
In one of Enid Blyton's Famous Five books , the Five go off in Caravan. I too would like to have a caravan holiday also as I have never had one before. However I would like to have a modern caravan with good facilities like a well fitted kitchen plus dining area, a toilet/shower cubicle and an awning which could cover an outdoor sitting place. Of course it should have a cosy sitting room and a nice bedroom with picture windows all around. How I would enjoy myself were I to have such a lovely caravan and park it at different caravan camp sites. My caravan would give me days and days of pleasure on a holiday. . I would name my caravan "Summer Days". —Avan N. Cooverji
Fatty says... Fatty says: I think a holiday chalet or cottage would be more up your street, Avan!
August 22, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
That's a possible discussion - which place featured in Enid's stories would you like to visit for a holiday? —Paul
Fatty says... Fatty says: We have a topic on this very subject, Paul. Click here.
August 22, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
It makes you wonder where the people who lived in the Welsh mountains or the seaside/country went to, to get better. Central London, maybe? —Nigel
Fatty says... Fatty says: Maybe they never got ill! Of course, they could always come to Peterswood!
August 19, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Not only in Enid Blyton's book but in many books of long ago, " Sea Air' was considered very good to regain health after a long illness. I have read in East Lynne by Mrs. Heery Wood too where Lady Isabel Carlyle was sent to a sea side place to recuperate from her weakened state by her husband and she was indeed vitalized by the sea air and improved a lot. The colour came back in her cheeks and she walked briskly and in short returned to life full of vim and vigour. As children we were encouraged to go for walks along the sea shore where there is more 'ozone' or go to the hill stations where the fresh mountain air could make all your ills go away. What a lovely way to get well soon! —Avan N. Cooverji
Daisy says... Daisy says: That's right, and in Enid's book - Five Get into a Fix, the Five went to the mountains in Wales to recover.
August 18, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
Daisy is quite right. Back in the 50s (and before) clean sea air - and good wholesome country air - complete with farm smells! - were thought to cure all manner of illnesses that us city fair contracted. Of course, wherever you are, air is mainly 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% carbon dioxide. —Nigel
August 18, 2017: Naughtiest Girl - The train to Whyteleaf
In my book which was probably published in the early 1970's it says "the train that would take her and the other girls to the school". Maybe they updated subsequent print editions with the "boys" part. —Victoria
Daisy says... Daisy says: Apparently in answer to this question, reading my book of 1958, it says that the 'girls' had three carriages reserved for them and the boys two carriages, so they must have been apart on the journey to the school.
August 17, 2017: Unlisted - Enid Blyton in general - Holidays
The BBC site on Enid mentioned that illnesses in her stories are invariably solved with a seaside holiday. Is this true or is it another myth? —Paul
Daisy says... Daisy says: In some of Enid's books a seaside holiday is recommended after an illness. In Enid's time the good sea air was thought to help any illness.